Code Health C3 Podcast E062 Jonathan Otto

When you hear the word healing, what pops into your mind? Probably prescriptions, supplements, or the latest superfood trend. But what if real healing wasn’t about chasing the next external fix — and instead came from unlocking the intelligence already built into your body?

In this week’s C3: CODE Conscious Conversations, we sat down with Jonathan Otto — award-winning journalist, filmmaker, and health educator. Jonathan has traveled the globe uncovering stories of healing that challenge mainstream narratives, from controversial ancestral practices like urine therapy to cutting-edge biohacks like red light therapy and PEMF (Pulsed Electromagnetic Field Therapy).

These approaches aren’t gimmicks. They’re ancient-meets-modern pathways to resilience, vitality, and sovereignty. Let’s dive into what they mean for your health.

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Urine Therapy: Ancient Practice, Modern Science

Most of us were raised to think of urine as “waste.” But across cultures — Egyptian, Roman, Greek, Ayurvedic, and Chinese — urine was revered as medicine. Today, modern research is beginning to confirm what our ancestors knew: urine carries powerful biological signals that can stimulate regeneration.

Stem Cells in Urine

Researchers at Wake Forest University discovered that urine samples aged for just three weeks contained over 100 million stem cells. Stem cells are your body’s master repair system — capable of regenerating tissue, repairing injuries, and restoring function. Imagine accessing that from your own body, naturally, without clinics or $10,000 injections.

Urea and Skin Health

If you’ve ever used a luxury moisturizer, you’ve likely already benefited from urine chemistry. Urea, a natural compound found in urine, is one of the most effective hydrators dermatology has to offer. It’s used in treating eczema, psoriasis, dandruff, and even wound healing.

Immunity and Antibodies

Contrary to common belief, urine isn’t about “toxins” — it’s about antibodies and immune signals. Trace amounts of what the body is fighting get filtered into urine, acting like a natural “microdose vaccine.” This is why urine has been studied for tuberculosis, malaria, rabies, and even cancer in the 20th century.

Practical Applications

  • Topical: Fresh urine applied to acne, scars, or infections can accelerate skin repair.
  • Internal: Small amounts of first-morning urine may support immunity and detoxification.
  • Aged urine: Fermented urine becomes alkaline and more potent for skin treatments or suppositories.

Yes, it’s controversial. But when you strip away the taboo, urine therapy emerges as one of the most cost-effective and scientifically intriguing tools for regeneration.

Red Light Therapy: Healing With Light

If urine therapy represents the “ancient,” red light therapy feels futuristic — yet it’s rooted in natural law. The sun emits healing red and near-infrared wavelengths, which fuel your mitochondria (the energy factories of your cells). Red light devices concentrate these wavelengths so you can tap into them anytime.

Thyroid Health

A clinical trial found that after just 10 red light therapy sessions, 47% of patients with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis no longer needed medication. Even more impressive: the benefits lasted nine months after treatment ended.

Vision and Eye Health

Studies show that just three minutes of red light exposure can improve eyesight by 17% immediately. For people battling myopia or age-related vision decline, this opens a non-invasive, drug-free path forward.

Inflammation and Pain Relief

From arthritis to chronic back pain, red light therapy boosts circulation, reduces oxidative stress, and supports collagen repair. That’s why athletes, biohackers, and dermatologists alike use it for recovery and skin health.

Cancer Research Potential

In emerging cancer research, red light therapy combined with compounds like methylene blue is being used to selectively destroy cancer cells — while sparing healthy ones.

The best part? A single red light device can last years and serve the entire household — making it far more sustainable than endless supplement routines.

PEMF: Frequency Healing for Sleep and Recovery

If red light brings you the sun, PEMF brings you the Earth. Pulsed Electromagnetic Field (PEMF) Therapy uses low-frequency magnetic fields to restore the body’s natural cellular communication.

Neutralizing EMFs

In today’s Wi-Fi-saturated, cell tower–packed world, our cells are constantly bombarded by artificial frequencies. PEMF helps reintroduce the natural frequencies our bodies crave, calming the nervous system and restoring balance.

Sleep and Recovery

One of the most consistent outcomes of PEMF use is deep, restorative sleep. By rebalancing brainwave activity and soothing the nervous system, PEMF helps the body reset — boosting energy, mood, and focus the next day.

Cellular Repair and Immunity

Research shows PEMF can stimulate stem cell production, accelerate wound healing, and strengthen healthy cells while weakening diseased ones. It’s especially promising for autoimmune conditions, injuries, and recovery therapies.

Accessibility

Today, PEMF devices are portable, safe, and increasingly affordable. Just 20 minutes a day on a PEMF mat can bring coherence and grounding similar to hours spent barefoot in nature.

Why Combine These Therapies?

At first glance, urine therapy, red light, and PEMF might seem worlds apart. But they share a deeper principle: they tap into your body’s own intelligence — instead of relying on external chemicals — to restore health.

  • Urine therapy provides stem cells, peptides, and antibodies unique to your biology.
  • Red light therapy fuels mitochondria, regenerates tissue, and lowers inflammation.
  • PEMF therapy restores your body’s electromagnetic balance, reducing stress and promoting repair.

Individually, each therapy is powerful. Together, they create a synergistic system of resilience that blends ancient wisdom with modern science.

Practical Takeaways for Everyday Life

  • Healing isn’t always expensive — sometimes it’s free (urine), sometimes it’s a one-time investment (red light, PEMF).
  • Symptoms aren’t random; they’re signals. Learning to read them is key to resilience.
  • Ancient practices often prove their worth through modern science. What was dismissed as “woo” frequently turns out to be measurable.
  • Consistency trumps intensity. A few minutes daily of light, breathwork, or grounding beats sporadic extremes.

Final Word

True healing isn’t about masking symptoms. It’s about restoring your body’s ability to regenerate.

In this episode of C3: CODE Conscious Conversations, Jonathan Otto takes us on a journey that bridges the past and the future — from ancestral practices like urine therapy to modern innovations like red light and PEMF. Together, these tools remind us that sovereignty begins with knowledge, curiosity, and the courage to explore beyond the mainstream.

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FAQs on Urine Therapy, Red Light, and PEMF

1. Is urine therapy really safe to practice?

Urine therapy is controversial, but many cultures have used it for centuries. Safety depends on how it’s practiced. Topical use (on skin conditions) is generally considered safe. Internal use is debated and should be approached with caution, ideally under guidance. The key is remembering that urine is sterile when fresh — but it’s not for everyone.

2. What conditions can red light therapy help with?

Red light therapy is widely researched for:

  • Skin health (wrinkles, scars, acne)
  • Pain and inflammation relief
  • Thyroid conditions like Hashimoto’s
  • Eye health and vision support
  • Athletic recovery and wound healing
    Some studies even suggest promise in cancer therapies when paired with compounds like methylene blue.

3. How often should I use PEMF therapy?

Consistency matters more than duration. Most people benefit from daily sessions of 15–30 minutes. PEMF mats or portable devices make this easy to integrate into your routine. Like meditation or exercise, regular use creates the biggest impact on sleep, stress, and cellular repair.

4. Can these therapies replace conventional medicine?

Not necessarily. Urine therapy, red light, and PEMF are best seen as complementary practices rather than replacements. They work with the body’s natural intelligence, but depending on your condition, you may still need conventional care. Think of them as tools for resilience, not silver bullets.

5. What’s the biggest benefit of combining urine therapy, red light, and PEMF?

Each therapy taps into a different aspect of healing:

  • Urine therapy gives you stem cells, peptides, and immune signals.
  • Red light therapy fuels mitochondria and tissue regeneration.
  • PEMF therapy restores the body’s electromagnetic balance.
    When combined, they create a synergistic system that enhances regeneration, reduces stress, and improves overall vitality.

6. Are these therapies expensive?

Not at all — that’s part of the appeal. Urine therapy is literally free. A quality red light device or PEMF mat is a one-time investment that can last for years and serve the whole family. Compared to lifelong prescriptions or supplements, they’re surprisingly cost-effective.

7. Who should avoid these therapies?

  • Urine therapy: Not recommended for those with kidney disease or active infections.
  • Red light therapy: Avoid shining directly into the eyes with high-powered devices unless designed for eye use.
  • PEMF therapy: People with pacemakers, implanted devices, or pregnancy should consult a doctor before use.

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